Dr. Chen Liu / CoinChain Capital

Dr. Chen Liu on CoinChain Capital's approach to blockchain acceleration

InterviewJanuary 10, 201915:10

In this episode

Today on Blockchain interviews, we speak with VC and Accelerator group CoinChain Capital. Based in Vancouver , they have strong ties to the Asian market for blockchain development and acceleration. Here are some of the topics we touch on with Chen today.

1. Hi Chen, Let’s talk about Coinchain Capital. Give us an overview of the company and what do you do? 2. What makes you different from other blockchain advisory companies? 3. Tell us about your current project? 4. Tell us more about STOs, what are the similarities, connections, and differences between STOs and ICOs, where do you see the future of STOs?

5. What is the upcoming roadmap and the milestones for Coinchain Capital look like moving into 2019?

6. how can viewers learn more about your company and project?

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Key takeaways
  • CoinChain Capital provides three core services: blockchain solutions for enterprises, security token and ICO offerings, and blockchain middleware connecting dApps to public chains.
  • The company differentiates through deep business and finance expertise combined with strong relationships across Asian investment and developer communities.
  • CoinChain is developing EverBall, a blockchain-based lottery platform for Brazil's National Soccer Lottery using a hybrid STO and ICO funding model.
  • EverBall's dual-token structure includes security tokens providing 15% profit sharing and utility tokens required for lottery ticket purchases and platform participation.
  • Security token offerings are more compliant and sustainable than ICOs because they distribute actual company profits rather than relying on speculative token demand.

Transcript

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coin chain Capital if you could start by giving us a little bit of an overview of the company and what you're doing that'd be a pleasure to hear okay so coin chain you can tell from the name so we're doing the crypto and blockchain and then we're working doing it in the capital world so coin chain basically do three things number one we provide business level blockchain

Solutions so by blockchain solution I mean the full scale solution for companies so we work with companies in consumers in supply chain supply chain Finance Asset Management tokenized asset gaming and lottery so that's number one number two provide the full Cy security token offering and Ico initial coin offering Services number three because of what we do in number

one and number two we've collected experience on industry level so we're able to provide the blockchain middleware where we connect the dabs with different public chains for our consumers that's awesome that's great y sounds like you guys have a lot of different things going on your plate wonderful and what would you say different iates you guys from other

blockchain advisory and Consulting companies in terms of the actual business we're doing the same thing I talked with a lot of other blockchain advisory companies and we provide same level of high quality service to our clients I see two things we do different number one because both me and my partners background we have very solid business

background I'm also a finance Professor I do a lot of strategic business Consulting my own experience working in the Capital Market so we understand the business part so other than just being a tax development company we help our business clients really understand how blockchain will help in their business straty in their daily operation so we make sure

blockchains really helping them we will never sell just a technology we the full package solution so that's I see how we different ourselves from other compan and number two is our strong Asian tie so we have very strong we have over the years we've developed a very strong relationship with the Asian investment Community recently the developer Community so we have a full

ecosystem we have a lot of friends over there so that's how we're able to help some of our clients locally here in North America or even South America to get into the Asian Community that's great Chen and you know you're you're right it's actually very important to have ties to the Asian community and I've spoken there a few times throughout 2018 and I noticed that

they seem to be really far ahead there was a lot of companies being incubated and integrating with blockchain technology especially around southeast Asia and that's something that the North American people that are just focused just on North America they're really missing out if they're not getting into that Global audience right yeah yeah because the economies develop growing

very fast over there and then they're very adapted to changes for sure embrace the new technology you got it and that's great and I love that and that's allowing the crypto economies to grow even faster as well exactly yes that's great so when did you guys found coin chain capital and how many different companies are you guys working with or can you give us an example of a

company that you guys are helping accelerate right now in the space okay so we founded coin chain in early 2018 it's actually 2018 and since then we worked with companies in different Industries so one of the exciting product we're currently working on is called ever botle forever and ever ever ball so it's a crypto so we put so we put the Brazil National

Lottery onto the blockchain so think about it's just the traditional very traditional paper Lottery we put it on the blockchain by putting it on the blockchain we use Smart contract to automate everything to ensure the full transparency the total trust in the in the sort of corrupted World in this Lottery so that is the so that's the platform and then

currently that the company that's renting the lottery is called Glasgow Global Group we call it GD or goog go I called it goog go because G so they operate the Brazil National Soccer lottery so by National Soccer lottery I mean they signed exclusive contract with the soccer Federation the fusil Federation so that they can use the intellectual property of each soccer

teams on their lottery so when you look at different lotteries so different each one ticket can represent for team so fans of particular team can buy the lottery of their their their their team the team that they support in doing that 10% of the propit will go to the F so how this whole thing works it's we help them build this full platform the blockchain by itself so of

course we say it's first applied in the Brazil National socc Lottery but it will then be expended to other countries other type of lotteries but it's a basically a lottery platform what so excited about this platform it's we're doing U one of the first ever stto plus IC a hybrid F ring system wow so yeah so we're very excited because this is the first

online Lottery Ico in Brazil and we consider it one of the few or one of the first few sdo and Ico hybrid so basically what the company doing is Raising 30 million Dollar in for its marketing development Business Development expansion and then out of that 30 million 20 will com in from security token where they will give out some ownership and then what's so cool

about the security token is security token holders they can share 15% of the company's net profit from the lottery and then so that's the security part and then along with that they also have the util token part so what the util token is for is actually for the overall the whole platform so if you want to buy a lotry ticket instead of buying it using the

Fiat money the only way you can do it is to buy their token we call it arall token so by purchasing arall token you able to participate the whole system the crypto system so right now with the token you can buy Lottery you can buy the team souvenir Team related product and then we're hoping to have thirdparty game developers or lot developers on the platform later

so to make the aball token the token for the lottery interesting yeah that's that's very cool to see dual token model I've seen it a few times now with some other projects and it seems very experimental as well as you know security token offerings they there's been a big shift you know from 2018 to 2019 now moving towards more traditional

offerings and including Securities and tokenizing them so are you guys familiar with the landscape on you know what's going to be happening with security token offerings through 2019 what are you going to have to go through with ever ball U maybe the differences in accelerating a project a traditional utility token versus a security token because I'm sure there

are a couple different Hoops that you have to jump through having a security offering right right so secur token offering a Ste is very exciting so I see it as the future of token offering because it is real because traditionally when you buy a token from Ico some people buy it just for free sale of the service Goods H but most buy it for investment

purpose so you're actually investing in the type of security so the security token actually make it more compliant so it's easier to go through the regulatory different regulatory Pro framework and with security token I do see a few differences but generally speaking when I work with businesses when to consider oh should I go through Ico or I see you have to look at your

business model right you whether you're doing an Ico Oro you have to have a very good business model you have to be profitable you have to be able to sell your product and service right right it's just that you give your investor different things if use the Ico you have to provide them with Ser goods and service and make sure you have a limited Supply and then increasing demand you

have to find ways to in boost your demand whereas with security token offering whether you're doing it with a bond securitized Bond or securitized stock you're actually giving out your profit so it's very critical so security token offering I see it's more similar or closer to the traditional acad offering it's just SEC version so the same way when you're rais found

when you're telling the story to the investor you really have to show comp has potential to make future profit so I see that's the critical thing and then now with security security token offering investors are a credit investor which means they're more sophisticated not necessar more sophisticated but they are supposed to be more sophisticated so you have to be

able to tell them the story because they are not just chasing the hype right they invest in the real real company and then expecting to ACC it with a high multi so that's the thing and in terms of legal of course if you're doing a secret token offering you have to involved spend more money on legal U make sure you complied U go to different jurisdictions and in terms

of marketing I see a different Trend in this Mark in doing marketing Community Management n PR the reason being with Ico you want to engage a very wide community of small players or small investors you want to be able to have a like huge fan base you want to have a you want to be able to attract a lot of followers on telegram on different

social media where with security because you're only dealing with a credit investor you don't necessarily have to do that so you're you're doing a different legal marketing strategic planning token design system where you're playing different game but by the company itself the project s have to be attractive yeah those are all great points and I think what the thing you

touched on in the beginning which I like the most is that it goes back to the business model right and there's been a lot of tech startups that are Developer focused and they have great development skills but really it comes down to having a business proposition that adds value where the company can derive profits from that and integrating blockchain at the same time right I've

seen numerous amount of projects that their business model is that some appreciation of a token but that's not a business model right so that's really important to stress and I'm glad that you guys are are stressing that to your clients yes yes thank you so 2019 is a big year we just started and there's lots of goals what are some of the goals that coin chain capital is

looking to achieve and what are you guys planning on doing in the first six months in and year of 2019 I say keep up with the good work so I see a because because we talk I talk about the three things we do right so number one for our blockchain solution so we see it is a bare Market we don't we don't have right now we don't see a lot of clients coming to us as before

but I know when it's bare Market you just gotta come down and do more research this is a good this is a good good time for us to really lay down dig deeper do more serious research development in terms of technology we're going to keep keep keep doing our blockchain M aware focusing with focusing on blockchain security smart contract audit

exchange security wallet security doing more of the development work and then more on the business side token design side we're we're going to work more on really understand sdo really understand the token what's driving the token what really understand model so this all goes back to understand the business understand industry is you say oh we're doing a token offering

we're in this industry we're in the Hightech IND but each Hightech industry is different you have to understand really understand industry really understand economy understand the markets understand investors perspective so that's that's that's our goal we wna of course we want to do more of Business Development pay more business clients good quality business

clients because we are providing advisory Services we do our reputation really depends on what type of plans we help right so that's our overall plan and then plus maintain our type relationship with this crypto Community I love this crypto community so if you look at this I see people helping each other we work as a team so we were close with different exchanges

Market makers different crypto founds developer communities and people like you guys I love you event and your your program so we're going to work more together thank you so much Chen I appreciate the kind words and I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys are doing in 2019 and that you I you did mention you guys are looking for more potential clients for development

acceleration if there are some potential clients or people that are looking to incubate their projects that are watching this what's the best way for them to contact coin chain so best way is to go to our website coin c.ca they can leave a message there or they can just Google myself or link myself Dr CH on LinkedIn and then I'm happy to connect wonderful well it's

been great speaking to you Chen I really appreciate you taking the time and speaking to us about coin chain Capital today and let's do another followup in the next month or two and we'll see where the crypto market's at and how the space is accelerating so I'm really excited to for that but for until next time thank you so much for your time thank you very much thank you for

having me all right bye bye

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